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Russian part of my collection
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 2:53 pm
by Recollect2023
Here's a picture of the Russian models currently in my collection, just added two more 6x4's w. lightweight pommel.
Re: Russian part of my collection
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:27 pm
by Mr. B.
Very nice examples! For me, the Russian AKM 6X4 Type I bayonets and scabbards are the stars of a Russian collection. It is possible to have them as a complete stand alone collection. It’s possible to have 20-30 examples. Different arsenals, different mold and stamp marks in different positions, different small variations from early to late production. Different belt hangers and wrist straps to match up with production variations. Also the 2 different original Type I to Type II transitionals from the 2 arsenals. Look for original production variations in the best possible condition. Re-worked examples with miss-matched and forced match numbers should be avoided as any combination is possible and usually wrong. Read all the posts here to learn of all the possibilities. Cheers, Mr. B.
Re: Russian part of my collection
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:43 am
by corgi
Good collectibles
Re: Russian part of my collection
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:17 pm
by Recollect2023
Mr. B. wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:27 pmLook for original production variations in the best possible condition. Re-worked examples with miss-matched and forced match numbers should be avoided as any combination is possible and usually wrong. Read all the posts here to learn of all the possibilities.
Thanks, I always try to find them in the nicest possible condition. The Russian part af my collection has plenty of room left to expand with all the models available, so I consider myself lucky with the other variaties to still hunt for. As for serial numbers: is the serial number on the first lighweight pommel on the picture in a position where numbers are placed more often? I don't recall having seen it on the cutter plate before.
Re: Russian part of my collection
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:18 pm
by Recollect2023
corgi wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:43 amGood collectibles
Thank you, very happy with these!
Re: Russian part of my collection
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:01 am
by Mr. B.
Hi Hans, Yes, the hand etched numbers on bayonets 3 and 6 are what I noticed as being inspected, reconditioned, re-numbered, repaired or replaced. Hard to tell on the others in your picture. Original arsenal matching numbers are machine engraved with block numbers. Located on the front lower space on the scabbard body, opposite side from the molded arsenal mark. The early 6X4 bayonets with the machined (smooth) crossguards had numbers on the left side of the crossguard. Later bayonets with the cast (visible rivets) crossguards had the numbers on the left side of the grip. MIke
Re: Russian part of my collection
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:14 am
by Mr. B.
Here are samples of 6X4 original Izhevsk arsenal matching numbers. One set is on an early variation and the other set is on a later variation with the reduced pommel. Mike
Re: Russian part of my collection
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:22 am
by Recollect2023
Thanks Mike! Yes, 3 and 6 have the handwritten serial numbers. The two regular 6x4's are matching and numbered in the - I believe - correct location on scabbard and handles. The two other 6x4 with lightweight pommel aren't numbered. Pictures to follow!